. >> jackie robinson, muhammad ali, martin luther king was bugged by the f.b.i. and all kinds of rumors were spread about him and the demonizing of barack obama falls into that power. and one of the things that he did today was place history, in the history of civil rights and the history of progressive movements into the mainstream of america, you know, tracing it back to the declaration of independence. >> it's interesting to go back to what the dating is here. here's myrlie evers, the widow of medgar evers. ole miss, alabama and the wondrous thing, of course, the wife of the attorney general -- by the way, we just lost james woods -- james hood the other day. he died. and he was one of the two people who were integrated, basically, at gun point with george wallace standing in the door back then. in alabama. >> yeah, i mean, those were incredible times. and you and i have some recollection of those times. >> but not the president. >> no, he doesn't. he doesn. he was, at best, a baby when these things were happening. it's -- but he -- but he knows the history. e